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of the Billing and Interconnect Meeting #19 |
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19th
DQ Billing & Interconnection Sub-group, 21st January 2003, 2pm
Attendees
Richard Allen (Telewest Communications plc), Dirk Amtsberg (118866),
John Bailey (C & W), Marco Bernardi (Neustar), Ian Britton (Totem),
Bill Byrne (Centrica), Alex Campbell (Oftel), Sue Coxon (Accurate
Billing Solutions), Tracy Fenton (ntl:), Zoe Goodyear (Orange), Lesa
Green (Kingston Communications), Nik Hole (The Number), Andy Holliday
(118866), Paul James (Consorte), David Knox (Convergys), Les Oliver
(ContextConnect), Caroline Wallace (Oftel), Ian Watson (BT).
Apologies
1. Welcome and Safety Briefing
2. Agreeing on Meeting Note-Taker
It was agreed that Andy Holliday of 118866 Limited would take the
meeting notes.
3. Brief Introductions
4. Review and Agree Previous Minutes
The minutes for the 18th meeting were accepted as accurate.
Action Points
18.1 Dirk Amtsberg to give a short presentation on Billing in Germany
at this meeting Closed
18.2 List of questions not yet sent to PNO-IG Ongoing
18.3 No conference call can be arranged with PNO-IG until questions
have been submitted Ongoing
18.4 ABS have redrafted the text for 'Real Time Data Evaluation' in
Phase II Billing Options Closed
5. Information on Offline Billing Solutions in Other
Countries
Dirk Amtsberg of 118866 Limited gave a brief presentation on the German
approach to offline billing. He explained that in Germany online and
offline billing co-existed. telegate AG had offline billing with Deutsche
Telekom and online billing with other networks such as E-Plus, using
mediation. He highlighted the fact that the same problem with identifying
the originating operator exists in Germany as we currently face in
UK and therefore bilateral agreements are necessary for offline billing.
Germany is currently developing a change to the signalling system
to identify the originator.
Paul James of Consorte (Telenor) gave a presentation on the approach
to Phase II billing in Norway. He explained that those involved used
dedicated trunks from each originator thus obviating the problem with
identifying the originator. He went on to explain that the new system
relied on using prefixes to the dialled number and would be operational
in June 2003.
Paul agreed to add some high level comment to his Powerpoint presentation
and to e-mail it Dirk Amtsberg for distribution to group members.
(AP 19.1)
6. Statement of Requirement for Billing Phase II
Solution
Sue Coxon of Accurate Billing Systems asked if all had seen the revised
Statement of Requirements and accepted it. Marco Bernardi of Neustar
stated that he had submitted some proposed changes which did not appear
in the new document. There followed a wide ranging discussion on the
document during which Nik Hole of The Number incorporated the changes
as they were agreed.
Nik Hole agreed to distribute the updated document. (AP 19.2)
There was a discussion on the possible benefits of putting forward
a proposed solution with wider application than just DQ. Whilst it
was felt that it would be advantageous to attract broader interest
within the industry for our specific requirements, there was little
support for the idea of expanding the requirements to cover a generalized
solution and overcomplicating the issue, especially as it was felt
that the solution could be used for multiple services anyway..
7. Phase II Billing Options
Sue Coxon of Accurate Billing Systems asked if there was agreement
on the content of the Options document. Tracy Fenton of ntl: pointed
out that the document did not include a Consorte type solution. In
general discussion it was agreed that the document should be amended
to ensure it does not preclude multiple solutions.
Nik Hole agreed to amend the document and to submit it to PNO-ISC
as soon as possible. (AP 19.3)
8. Any Other Business
There were no items of other business.
9. Summary of New Actions
19.1 Paul James to add high-level comment and forward his presentation
to Dirk Amtsberg for circulation.
19.2 Nik Hole to amend and circulate the Statement of Requirements
document to all members.
19.3 Nik Hole to amend the Options document and submit it to PNO-ISC
as soon as possible.
10. Next Meetings
February 25th 2003 13.30 BT Holborn Circus (to be confirmed) CANCELLED
March 25th 2003 13.30 TBA (volunteers requested)
A M R Holliday
118866 Limited
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