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Minutes of OIF Meeting - 19 September 2001 Layout image
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Contents

  1. Agenda
  2. List of attendees
  3. Minutes

Introduction from chair, Peter Walker, Oftel.

Peter welcomed speakers and delegates to the 9th meeting of the OIF. Peter introduced the morning's topic of discussion - 'ISPs' Terms and Conditions'.

Terms and conditions make up the sharp end of the issue of 'customer service standards' (and codes of practice) as mentioned in the Communications White Paper. Peter explained that Maeve Gallagher and Chris Rowsell would say a little more about this later on in the morning.

Terms and conditions and quality of service were also highlighted as key issues in Oftel's 2000/01 Effective Competition Review of Dial-up Internet Access. Peter said that Oftel was currently consulting on it findings - the deadline for comments was 30 October 2001. Attendees were invited to take a hard copy of report. [These are currently available from Lucy Rhodes]

Peter stated that the meeting would be held under Chatham House rules. A note of the meeting would be available on the web site.


Oftel's role - Maeve Gallagher and Chris Rowsell, Oftel.

Maeve explained that Oftel's Consumer Representation Section (CRS) receives complaints from consumers about various aspects of ISPs' services including their contracts with consumers. Although Oftel has no power to get involved in consumer contracts as such, if the contract terms are unfair, it will try to remedy the situation with the ISP. Oftel has powers under the Unfair Contract Terms Act [UCTA] 1977. Oftel has received very few complaints of this nature but will continue to look into cases when they arise.

Questions

Do Oftel's powers under UCTA refer to consumer contracts, or do they include commercial contracts too?

  • UCTA refers to service providers contracts with consumers - not contracts for wholesale services.

Does Oftel work with the Office of Fair Trading on unfair contract term issues?

  • Oftel and the OFT have concurrent powers under the UCTA. In most cases, the OFT will refer to Oftel issues associated with telcos and ISPs. There will always be borderline issues which could fall under either Oftel or the OFT (for example domain name services) - in these cases the organisations look to each other for advice.

Chris reminded the Forum that the Communications White Paper called on industry to develop codes of practice covering the relationship between themselves and consumers. It was hoped that these codes would be put in place before legislation to show that self-regulation was a preferred and workable option.

Codes of practice are closely linked to terms and conditions as a means of ensuring that consumers have clearly explained to them their rights and obligations. These terms undoubtedly have legal connotations, however it is important that they are written in a consumer-friendly manner.

Oftel is currently raising awareness of the need to establish the sort of codes and standards outlined in the White Paper.


ISP Terms and Conditions - A Nominet UK Perspective. Eleanor Bradley, Customer Support Manager at Nominet UK Click here for presentation.

Eleanor described Nominet UK's not-for-profit status and outlined the body's main functions as the central registry for domain names under .uk:

  • To maintain the integrity of the database for .uk
  • Perform transactions in a fair and efficient manner
  • Provide information to the public ("Whois" service)
  • Provide a dispute resolution service

More than 90% of consumers register their domain name through a member of Nominet. 97% of Nominet's membership (it does not have 'shareholders') are ISPs.

There is a three way relationship between Nominet UK (the registry), ISPs (the domain name sellers/agents) and registrants (the consumers/buyers of domain names). This results in three separate contractual relationships. Nominet UK relies on the ISP (domain name seller) to ensure its terms and conditions are upheld with the consumer.

Disputes arise between consumers and ISPs when, for example, a consumer wanst to change their hosting service provider but the ISP believes they owe outstanding payments. Terms and conditions are essential to help solve disputes such as this. Increasingly, ISPs are drafting effective terms and conditions.

Nominet UK understands that ISPs' terms must be in plain English, not a complex legal language. Terms must be properly incorporated - not on the back of a receipt after a contract has been agreed. Terms must 'empower the consumer' and service providers must be aware of changes in law and practice.

ISPs should be aware of other issues affecting their terms and conditions, such as data protection laws, consumer protection legislation, libel and intellectual property rights.


Promoting Good Practice in Domain Name Registration, Fay Howard, Manager of INCOP. Click here for presentation.

Nominet UK is the third largest domain name registry in the world and has registered over 3 million domain names. In response to the extent of Nominet's task, Nominet UK's Policy Advisory Board took forward initial discussions to establish an Internet Code of Practice (INCOP) for domain name registration. Nominet UK is currently seed-funding the project. The code will help improve quality of service and credibility of the industry, whilst limiting possible regulatory intervention from government.

In particular, the code will help improve the efficiency of Nominet's service. Nominet UK's customer support desk receives over 500 calls a day from consumers. This indicates that consumer expectations far exceed reality. More clarity down the line (i.e. from the ISPs selling domain names) would help avoid this situation and would mean fewer dissatisfied consumers complaining to Nominet.

INCOP will be independent of Nominet UK and will operate as an accreditation body.

The code will ensure that ISPs' advertising is not misleading. It will also require that ISPs provide sufficient information about their business - many web-based companies have no means of contact other than a mailbox number. INCOP believes that these types of company should in fact have a registered address and VAT number.

In addition, ISPs will be required to explain Nominet's role to its customers. Consumers ultimately receive a certificate from Nominet UK stating ownership of the domain name. At present, consumers are worried when they receive this certificate because it states that they are bound by Nominet UK's terms and conditions - and they have no knowledge of who Nominet UK is!

The code will require ISPs to work within agreed time scales for tag changes. Tag changes require the cooperation of the tag holder - who will be losing a customer to another service provider. It is important that the intellectual property of the domain name is not mixed up with the intellectual property of the web design. Clear terms and conditions and time scales should avoid the delays currently associated with these issues.

The code of practice will also require data protection standards beyond the minimum requirements established by law. This will help stop ISPs checking what domain names consumers might want to register by looking at recent 'WHOIS' inquiries. The code would help foster greater integrity among ISPs and ensure that WHOIS data is only used for the correct purpose.

Draft code content is now published and the official consultation period is open (to 16 November 2001). INCOP is currently investigating options on implementation, funding and sanctions for noncompliance.

Fay invited attendees to visit INCOP's web site - www.incop.org.uk - and urged ISPs to complete the online questionnaire as part of the code's consultation process.


The AOL View. Phil Whall, Legal Counsel, AOL UK. Click here for presentation.

Phil introduced AOL's legal team as being at the sharp end of the interface between AOL and the consumer. ISPs' terms and conditions represent a huge range of services. AOL is a large ISP with millions of subscribers. It also hosts a lot of third party content. Phil suggested it was worth noting the size of ISPs like AOL and the extent of their role, when considering the obligations placed on them.

All AOL terms and conditions are drafted with a background of consumer protection and other law. There is no reason why general legal concepts cannot be explained in plain English.

Terms and conditions form the backbone of the relationship between the ISP and consumer. AOL's combinations of terms and conditions/community guidelines let users know what is and is not acceptable behaviour, for example, the type of material that can be posted.

Current legal issues faced by ISPs:

  • Are the terms incorporated? Has the consumer agreed to them as part of the contract? ISPs need to get their consumers to read the member agreement and explicitly accept or reject the contract - the more evidence an ISP can give that the consumer willfully agreed to the terms, the better incorporated the terms are. It is not necessary for consumers to print out the contract - in the off-line world, consumers are not given a copy of their terms and conditions when buying something in a shop, so why should this happen on the Internet?
  • Distance selling regulations require a cooling-off period for distance sales (where there is no face-to-face communication). Some ISPs believe these regulations apply to them, however AOL disagrees: it would be ill-conceived if a consumer was able to use AOL's service for 7 days and then decide to pull out. In any case, AOL lets its consumers cancel within up to 30 days. ISP online shops are a different case - the consumer has to wait for the product to arrive and has time to repent!
  • Data processing - ISPs can use consumers' personal data for a number of legal requirements and also if the consumer has given their freely informed consent. Terms and conditions should make clear what uses will be made of consumers' data and give them the opportunity to opt-out of any data sharing practices. AOL providesinformation to its in consumers up front in the terms and make it easy for consumers to change their minds.
  • Limitation of liability clauses. A failure of ISP services could result in potentiallly huge losses for the consumer (e.g. lost emails, inabilty to access services). Consumers can make two types of contractual complaint - claims for either direct losses or indirect/consequential losses. It is important that ISPs decide what their responsibility and legal position is and incorporate this in their terms to avoid confusion and offer transparency in dealing with complaints. Niche ISPs need to be able to restrict/limit their liability in certain areas. ISPs also need to consider tortious claims - such as defamation (e.g. Godfrey v Demon). This has ramifications for ISPs who provide a large amount of content. It is difficult for ISPs to decide whether to take down content (reasonable care versus freedom of speech) and how to manage risks - this is where community guidelines (like those used by AOL) are extremely useful.
  • E-commerce directive - AOL's initial view is that it includes lots of undefined terms. However, it will limit ISPs' liability for unknown activity/information and where it is merely acting as a pipe for that data.

Questions

Even if a service provider is merely acting as a 'pipe', don't they still need to deal with liability issues?

  • If an ISP is made aware of illegal content, it will need to decide whether to hide the content and give the owner fair warning that it is not acceptable. If it does not receive an adequate response from the owner, the ISP could then take it off its service.

What obligations would AOL have if junk e-mail was sent by a non-AOL user, not over AOL's network but about a web site hosted by AOL?

  • AOL would refer to its community guidelines.

 


Open discussion

Is there a need for a different code of practice for every service provided by ISPs?

  • ISPs do provide very different services, for example domain name registration, e-mail, e-commerce and content. There are many specialist ISPs. Certain standards apply to all ISPs - codes of practice generally have a lot in common with each other, regardless of the specific area they intend to help regulate. All codes of practice should require similar minimum standards.
  • Codes of practice should not just be about legal obligations but good practice and community guidelines too. The big ISPs are almost certain to have well-incorporated terms and conditions. It is the smaller ISPs who may fail on this account, having much smaller resources and lacking legal advic.. Incop is a good example of a Code that brings all sizes of ISPs together under a single standard. The function of an accreditation body such as Incop is not just to police service providers but also to provide then with advice and information.

How can we encourage small ISPs to take up codes of practice?

  • Oftel is currently raising awareness of the need to establish the sort of codes and standards outlined in the White Paper, although it will be impossible to force every ISP to adopt these standards. However, Ofcom may be given powers to recognise certain codes. Ofcom may be 2 years away but it is not too early for industry to start. This will affect parliamentary counsel drafting of the Bill.
  • ISPA is currently updating its code of practice - its members include a number of SMEs

Are residential and business consumers caught by the same terms?

  • ISPs' terms need to be flexible and need to reflect the differences in bargaining power held by consumers and businesses.
  • One ISP said that they defined residential and business consumers upfront in their consumer contracts. This enables consumers to define their status and understand which specific terms apply to them.

 


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